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[Cucumber] Thoughts on CA "Agile Requirements Designer"?
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Tim Walker
2018-10-09 17:05:29 UTC
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Curious what the BDD community thinks. I have my own perceptions but want
to hear from you first.

Thank you.

Tim
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aslak hellesoy
2018-10-10 07:15:51 UTC
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Hard to say without knowing what the role entails, and how it fits into the
process.
Post by Tim Walker
Curious what the BDD community thinks. I have my own perceptions but want
to hear from you first.
Thank you.
Tim
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Tim Walker
2018-10-10 12:17:14 UTC
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That is exactly the question. How would a graphic model based tool work for
conversations, emergent design.
Post by aslak hellesoy
Hard to say without knowing what the role entails, and how it fits into
the process.
Post by Tim Walker
Curious what the BDD community thinks. I have my own perceptions but want
to hear from you first.
Thank you.
Tim
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aslak hellesoy
2018-10-10 12:40:58 UTC
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I misread your initial question. Didn’t realise you were talking about a
tool. Thought you were talking about a job spec/role.

https://www.ca.com/us/products/ca-agile-requirements-designer.html

Sounds like snake oil to me :-)
Post by Tim Walker
That is exactly the question. How would a graphic model based tool work
for conversations, emergent design.
Post by aslak hellesoy
Hard to say without knowing what the role entails, and how it fits into
the process.
Post by Tim Walker
Curious what the BDD community thinks. I have my own perceptions but
want to hear from you first.
Thank you.
Tim
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Tim Walker
2018-10-10 14:05:43 UTC
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[tim] below.
Post by aslak hellesoy
I misread your initial question. Didn’t realise you were talking about a
tool. Thought you were talking about a job spec/role.
https://www.ca.com/us/products/ca-agile-requirements-designer.html
Sounds like snake oil to me :-)
[Tim] Me too. That's why I asked! I still see such a confusion around BDD.
The marketing of this tool uses BDD in its description. I struggle. BDD so
profoundly changes things. Thank you Aslak.
Post by aslak hellesoy
Post by Tim Walker
That is exactly the question. How would a graphic model based tool work
for conversations, emergent design.
Post by aslak hellesoy
Hard to say without knowing what the role entails, and how it fits into
the process.
Post by Tim Walker
Curious what the BDD community thinks. I have my own perceptions but
want to hear from you first.
Thank you.
Tim
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SuperKevy
2018-10-10 19:19:58 UTC
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+1 on the snake oil. Process over people (waterfall). People over
process (agile)

From CA

*Agile Requirements Designer* applies model-based testing approaches to
simplify *requirements *engineering and automate the design, development
and maintenance of executable test cases. All while maintaining
*requirement* traceability through the entire development and testing
lifecycle.

https://xebialabs.com/technology/caagilerequirementsdesigner/ says

CA Agile Requirements Designer is an end-to-end requirements gathering,
test automation and test case design tool which drastically reduces manual
testing effort and enables organizations to deliver quality software to
market earlier and at less cost. The optimal set of manual or automated
tests can be derived automatically from requirements modeled as unambiguous
flowcharts and are linked to the right data and expected results. These
tests are updated automatically when the requirements change, allowing
organizations to deliver quality software which reflects changing user
needs.
Post by aslak hellesoy
I misread your initial question. Didn’t realise you were talking about a
tool. Thought you were talking about a job spec/role.
https://www.ca.com/us/products/ca-agile-requirements-designer.html
Sounds like snake oil to me :-)
Post by Tim Walker
That is exactly the question. How would a graphic model based tool work
for conversations, emergent design.
Post by aslak hellesoy
Hard to say without knowing what the role entails, and how it fits into
the process.
Post by Tim Walker
Curious what the BDD community thinks. I have my own perceptions but
want to hear from you first.
Thank you.
Tim
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